Harry and Meghan’s children are not listed as prince and princess in the updated order of succession published by Buckingham Palace after the Queen’s death.
As descendants of the reigning monarch, the children of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are technically entitled to titles. But in the updated order of succession during the reign of King Charles III – listed on the royal website – Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, three, and his sister, Lillibet, one, are listed as “Master” and “Miss”.
During an explosive Oprah Winfrey interview, Meghan claimed that officials had denied Archie the title of Prince and denied him 24/7 security before suggesting that the decision was due to his mixed race.
The Sussex family indicated in the interview that they were expecting Archie to become prince, but were told that protocols would change in line with Charles’ desire for a minimal monarchy.
Yesterday the royal family’s website published an updated order of succession. While it does show that Archie and Lillibet have ascended in line of succession and are sixth and seventh in line to the throne, it does not list them as prince and princess.
Sussex family friend and favorite journalist Omid Scobie wrote on Twitter: “As son of the King, Harry’s children have the right to become HRH Prince Archie and HRH Princess Lillibit. For now, however, the two are listed with their original style.
Yesterday, the Royal Family website published an updated list of the order of succession. While it does show that Archie and Lillibet have risen in line of succession and are sixth and seventh in line to the throne, they will not be known as Prince and Princess.
The first photo of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s daughter Lillipet on Christmas card was released on December 23, 2021
The new line of succession to the throne of the United Kingdom after the death of the Queen
According to rules established by King George V in 1917, Archie and Lily – as sons of a sovereign’s son – would have HRH style if they chose to use it.
The King’s spokesman said the King announced William and Kate’s titles as Prince and Princess of Wales, and expressed his love for Harry and Meghan in his address to the nation on Friday.
While the website has been updated for Wales, updating the love on a website obviously doesn’t quite work so we haven’t quite done that but he clearly loves them. We will work through the site update when we get the information,” he said on Saturday.
Meghan first raised the issue of nicknames publicly in her 2021 interview with Oprah Winfrey.
She said that when she was pregnant with Archie: “They would say they didn’t want him to be a prince or princess – and they didn’t know what sex was – which would be different from protocol.”
Meghan described her ‘pain’ as she claimed officials had denied Archie the title of Prince and accused Buckingham Palace of failing to protect him by denying him 24/7 security.
When asked if it was ‘important’ for Meghan to call Archie a prince, she said she had no connection with the ‘greatness’ of official titles.
But, she said, it comes down to “the idea that our son is not safe, as well as the idea of not naming the first color member in this family in the same way as other grandchildren.”
King Charles III greets members of the public outside Clarence House, London, after the Privy Council formally declared him king
During an explosive Oprah Winfrey interview, Meghan called her ‘pain’ because officials denied Archie the title of Prince and accused Buckingham Palace of failing to protect him by denying him 24/7 security.
In 2021, Charles suggested – in an effort to limit the number of royals – that he intended, when he became king, to prevent Archie from becoming prince.
To do so, he would have to issue a patent to modify Archie’s right to be a prince and Lily’s right to be a princess.
When Archie was born seventh in line to the throne in May 2019, he was very far from the line of succession.
Although he was a grandson of the king, he was not the eldest son of the future king, so he was not automatically a prince.
He could have used the title of Earl of Dumbarton, or Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.
But Buckingham Palace said the Duke and Duchess had made a personal decision that it should be Archie Mountbatten-Windsor instead.
The Sussexes stopped using their Royal Highness’s methods after they stepped down as senior royals for life in Los Angeles, and there were later calls for their titles of Duke and Duchess to be removed.
What is the George V Convention?
In 1917, the Queen’s grandfather issued a new patent limiting the number of members of the royal family with the title of His Royal Highness.
They stipulated that “children of any king of these kingdoms, children of children of any such king and the eldest surviving son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales shall possess and enjoy at all times the style, title or capacity of His Royal Highness with their titular dignity of the Prince or Princess preceded by their names Christianity or with their other honorific titles.
In 1917, the Queen’s grandfather issued a new patent limiting the number of members of the royal family with the title of His Royal Highness
This means that when Prince Charles became king, his grandchildren – including Archie – automatically became princes or princesses.
And it was decreed that ‘the descendants of the sons of any such king in the direct male line… shall enjoy and enjoy on all occasions the style and title which the sons of these dukes of our worlds enjoy’ (i.e., Lord or Mrs. before their Christian name).
In addition, the aforementioned letters “, except as we have foregoed, shall not be assumed or borne by any descendant of any king of these realms, except for the title or distinguishing character of His Royal Highness, His Highness or His Highness and the nominal dignity of a prince or princess.